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Re: Odometer question
From: "CardsFan" <me(at)here.com>
Subject: Re: Odometer question
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 12:05:49 -0500
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"Dad" <knockers(at)fish.net> wrote in message
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> "CardsFan" <me(at)here.com> wrote in message
> news:cednii$dmd$1(at)mozo.cc.purdue.edu...
> > "Dad" <knockers(at)fish.net> wrote in message
> > news:nLudnV3YWtfhxJfcRVn-tQ(at)bright.net...
> snip
> >Did the police investigate your deer collision and file a
> > report? If so, there should have been a record CarFax could access.
> >
> > I`m not shilling for CarFax, nor am I saying it`s perfect. I`m saying
> it`s
> > easily worth 20 bucks. It is also worth $100 or whatever the cost to
have
> > an trusted mechanic check out a potential purchase for evidence of
things
> > CarFax would never know about.
> >
> > AJM
> > `93 Ruby coupe, 6 sp
<snip>
> The trusted mechanic is your only bet, CarFax is only a guess at best, but
> it sure is making money for CarFax. Hummmm, could that be its purpose?
Something wrong with making money now? They provide a guarantee on odometer
problems under which, if they miss any DMV report, they will pay 110% of KBB
value of the vehicle. The guarantee also applies to vehicles that had been
totaled, returned under lemon laws, or had fire/flood damage. After which I
would hope they would go after the seller who knowingly had an inaccurate
title notarized.
> Both the mechanic and the CarFax are used for people that want to blame
someone
> else for a bad buying decision. Nobody is responsible for what they do
> anymore.
Your last statement is as inaccurate as mine was about vehicle damage. Not
everyone is a car expert. There are a lot of disreputable people and
dealers. The things I mentioned are cheap insurance.
AJM
`93 Ruby coupe, 6 sp
From: "Dad" <knockers(at)fish.net>
Subject: Re: Odometer question
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 13:25:31 -0400
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"CardsFan" <me(at)here.com> wrote in message
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> "Dad" <knockers(at)fish.net> wrote in message
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> > else for a bad buying decision. Nobody is responsible for what they do
> > anymore.
>
> Your last statement is as inaccurate as mine was about vehicle damage.
Not
> everyone is a car expert. There are a lot of disreputable people and
> dealers. The things I mentioned are cheap insurance.
>
> AJM
> `93 Ruby coupe, 6 sp
>
Sorry your opinion is inaccurate, have you been in court lately. I took a
jerk to court to prove he was at fault while he was driving his car and
damage it. I didn`t win but I got it settled without to much cost and no way
for him to come back on me for the total damages. My last statement stands,
the court decides that, you don`t. There are a lot of disreputable people
buying cars also. Cheap insurance is just that, cheap, try to get a
settlement. Yes, there is something wrong with making money the insurance
way.
--
Dad
04 C5 CE Z51
72 Shark Black/Black/4spd
From: "CardsFan" <me(at)here.com>
Subject: Re: Odometer question
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 14:45:46 -0500
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"Dad" <knockers(at)fish.net> wrote in message
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> "CardsFan" <me(at)here.com> wrote in message
> news:cedv5e$gvt$1(at)mozo.cc.purdue.edu...
> >
> > "Dad" <knockers(at)fish.net> wrote in message
> > news:nI-dnc_I_Z-x5ZfcRVn-iw(at)bright.net...
> > >
> Snip
> > > else for a bad buying decision. Nobody is responsible for what they do
> > > anymore.
> >
> > Your last statement is as inaccurate as mine was about vehicle damage.
> Not
> > everyone is a car expert. There are a lot of disreputable people and
> > dealers. The things I mentioned are cheap insurance.
> >
> > AJM
> > `93 Ruby coupe, 6 sp
> >
> Sorry your opinion is inaccurate, have you been in court lately. I took a
> jerk to court to prove he was at fault while he was driving his car and
> damage it. I didn`t win but I got it settled without to much cost and no
way
> for him to come back on me for the total damages. My last statement
stands,
> the court decides that, you don`t. There are a lot of disreputable people
> buying cars also. Cheap insurance is just that, cheap, try to get a
> settlement. Yes, there is something wrong with making money the insurance
> way.
But your argument is circular. You`re deriding people for not taking
responsibility for making good buying decisions But when they try to use
methods available to avoid bad decisions, you deride that. People are going
to buy used cars, some out of necessity, and not every buyer knows enough
about cars to make a good decision independently. So they look around for
help. Even if they think they know a lot, there are still some that will be
taken in by "operators". It`s a lot worse in other areas than autos -
antiques come to mind. Heck, there are arguments among experts over the
authenticity of million-dollar paintings.
Here`s an example. I wanted to buy a Civil War musket. I went to some
auctions and looked at some guns, decided I didn`t know enough. I knew the
auction company to have a good reputation, but how much did THEY know about
140-year-old guns? I did some research, in a University library, on the
web. I thought I knew enough, and was ready to buy. But then a librarian
at the University told me about a local Civil War re-enactors organization
and suggested I sit in on one of their meetings. They were eager to help,
and I then found out I still didn`t know much at all. It can be almost as
complicated as "numbers-matching" Corvettes. Eventually I bought a gun.
Not the greatest gun, but it is genuine, and it is good enough for me to use
as a display piece in the den. I have to buy some parts (ramrod, rear
sight, a bayonet) to finish it off, but thanks to advice from people who
REALLY knew, I got a decent example at a decent price at the auction.
There`s no way everyone can be expert enough not to get taken. Things like
CarFax and an independent mechanic`s inspection are tools that can help
people make better decisions.
AJM
`93 Ruby coupe, 6 sp
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