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Re: Odometer question
From: "Dad" <knockers(at)fish.net>
Subject: Re: Odometer question
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 10:21:37 -0400
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"CardsFan" <me(at)here.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Fred" <antispam(at)aol.com> wrote in message
> news:SAjOc.1065$cL2.273598(at)news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net...
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> > it.... this would be another tip. Ask questions and do a lot of
> > inspecting... you may find clues. What about "Carfax"...? I don`t know
> > much about it but I heard of it.
>
> I used CarFax when I bought my Corvette through eBay. For $20 it`s well
> worth it. The car was in California for 7 years and there were records of
> every annual inspection, there was a record of when the car was re-titled
in
> Missouri, etc. If the car had ever been wrecked there would have been a
> record, etc.
>
> AJM
> `93 Ruby coupe, 6 sp
>
I need to take exception here on the statement "If the car had ever been
wrecked there would have been a record, etc". I hit a deer with my `98 and
all of the places that was supposed to put and estimate on it for the
insurance companies will go with the serial number to do so. No estimates, I
buy the parts from a dealer, fix the car myself, (new front end). Later I
get this bug in my butt for the Commemorative Edition and traded it. A
fellow club member saw it on the lot and buys it. When he drives it to the
next meeting he sees mine and said he had no idea he just got my old one. He
had no information from CarFax that showed any collision damage. CarFax is
not always correct and if the insurance doesn`t pay a claim or a shop
doesn`t fix it and put that information on the computer, CarFax is wrong or
not complete. Then there is the other side where a dealer will make a blind
repair to a customers car and load it to the computer so they will get the
manufactures warranty payment. When , in fact, nothing was done to the
vehicle at all. Lots of legal issues there that I can`t verify with facts,
(no longer have the paper trail), only what I`ve seen happen in the past.
To sum it up, there are ways around CarFax and ways that it don`t get the
correct information it needs to be accurate. Information is still key, and
if the responsible person doesn`t load it or has no idea where the parts are
going, CarFax is not going to have the right information. The statement
would be more correct if it had said "If the car had ever been wrecked
there`s a chance there is a record, etc."
Who and what runs CarFax, could it be the same people that set up the
computer system for the Flor-duh voters and wiped out all of the records on
the first official election last year?
--
Dad
04 C5 CE Z51
72 Shark Black/Black/4spd
From: "CardsFan" <me(at)here.com>
Subject: Re: Odometer question
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 09:56:18 -0500
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"Dad" <knockers(at)fish.net> wrote in message
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> "CardsFan" <me(at)here.com> wrote in message
> news:cedgr8$b6f$1(at)mozo.cc.purdue.edu...
> >
> > "Fred" <antispam(at)aol.com> wrote in message
> > news:SAjOc.1065$cL2.273598(at)news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net...
> snip
> > > it.... this would be another tip. Ask questions and do a lot of
> > > inspecting... you may find clues. What about "Carfax"...? I don`t
know
> > > much about it but I heard of it.
> >
> > I used CarFax when I bought my Corvette through eBay. For $20 it`s well
> > worth it. The car was in California for 7 years and there were records
of
> > every annual inspection, there was a record of when the car was
re-titled
> in
> > Missouri, etc. If the car had ever been wrecked there would have been a
> > record, etc.
> >
> > AJM
> > `93 Ruby coupe, 6 sp
> >
> I need to take exception here on the statement "If the car had ever been
> wrecked there would have been a record, etc". I hit a deer with my `98 and
> all of the places that was supposed to put and estimate on it for the
> insurance companies will go with the serial number to do so. No estimates,
I
> buy the parts from a dealer, fix the car myself, (new front end). Later I
> get this bug in my butt for the Commemorative Edition and traded it. A
> fellow club member saw it on the lot and buys it. When he drives it to the
> next meeting he sees mine and said he had no idea he just got my old one.
He
> had no information from CarFax that showed any collision damage. CarFax is
> not always correct and if the insurance doesn`t pay a claim or a shop
> doesn`t fix it and put that information on the computer, CarFax is wrong
or
> not complete. Then there is the other side where a dealer will make a
blind
> repair to a customers car and load it to the computer so they will get the
> manufactures warranty payment. When , in fact, nothing was done to the
> vehicle at all. Lots of legal issues there that I can`t verify with facts,
> (no longer have the paper trail), only what I`ve seen happen in the past.
>
> To sum it up, there are ways around CarFax and ways that it don`t get the
> correct information it needs to be accurate. Information is still key, and
> if the responsible person doesn`t load it or has no idea where the parts
are
> going, CarFax is not going to have the right information. The statement
> would be more correct if it had said "If the car had ever been wrecked
> there`s a chance there is a record, etc."
>
> Who and what runs CarFax, could it be the same people that set up the
> computer system for the Flor-duh voters and wiped out all of the records
on
> the first official election last year?
Yes, the statement was too broad. CarFax gets information from lots of
places. If a car has flood damage and insurance pays there should be a
record. If the car has a "rebuilt" title, there will definitely be a record.
Yes, there will be no record if someone really whacks a car and rebuilds it
himself from parts bought from a dealer or salvage yard. But in large $
wrecks there is usually insurance involved and if so, CarFax should show a
notation of it. Did the police investigate your deer collision and file a
report? If so, there should have been a record CarFax could access.
I`m not shilling for CarFax, nor am I saying it`s perfect. I`m saying it`s
easily worth 20 bucks. It is also worth $100 or whatever the cost to have
an trusted mechanic check out a potential purchase for evidence of things
CarFax would never know about.
AJM
`93 Ruby coupe, 6 sp
From: "Dad" <knockers(at)fish.net>
Subject: Re: Odometer question
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 12:32:33 -0400
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"CardsFan" <me(at)here.com> wrote in message
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> "Dad" <knockers(at)fish.net> wrote in message
> news:nLudnV3YWtfhxJfcRVn-tQ(at)bright.net...
snip
>Did the police investigate your deer collision and file a
> report? If so, there should have been a record CarFax could access.
>
> I`m not shilling for CarFax, nor am I saying it`s perfect. I`m saying
it`s
> easily worth 20 bucks. It is also worth $100 or whatever the cost to have
> an trusted mechanic check out a potential purchase for evidence of things
> CarFax would never know about.
>
> AJM
> `93 Ruby coupe, 6 sp
>
You give the reporting procedure, and the police, way to much credit. First
off the crime rates and the accident rates have been going down because they
are reporting less of those that happen. Man power shortages, gets the blame
most of the time, but lazy and political pressure would be more correct. I
was involved in an accident in Toledo Ohio with a friend as the driver.
Moving violation on his part and he wanted a report for insurance reasons,
damage under $2,000 on his vehicle. He couldn`t beg a report out of the
police and he (we) even went to the station to get one and they said "forget
it, we ain`t writing a report".
As far as a police report on hitting a deer, they won`t even talk to you.
Let alone drive out to the scene. Now if you shoot it, cut it`s throat, or
choke it to death, to get it out of it`s misery, you`ll be arrested for
poaching, illegal use of a firearm, or any other firearms, hunting,
violation they can get you for. That is politically correct and makes all of
the soccer moms, PETA, wimps, Brady, and Barbara Finestine happy.
The trusted mechanic is your only bet, CarFax is only a guess at best, but
it sure is making money for CarFax. Hummmm, could that be its purpose? Both
the mechanic and the CarFax are used for people that want to blame someone
else for a bad buying decision. Nobody is responsible for what they do
anymore.
--
Dad
04 C5 CE Z51
72 Shark Black/Black/4spd
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