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Re: Odometer question

From: Diode <reprobate(at)reprobates.com>

Subject: Re: Odometer question

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Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 13:39:11 GMT

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CardsFan spoke thusly:





> I used CarFax when I bought my Corvette through eBay. For $20 it`s well

> worth it. The car was in California for 7 years and there were records of

>



Yep, CarFax is definitely a good thing. Last year at Carlisle my buddy

called his wife at home, she went to the CarFax web site, 15 minutes

later we were driving home an LT4.



--



Shut up, Dave.



-|>|- Diode -|<|-

`68 L-79 Coupe

`79 Triumph Bonneville




From: "Dad" <knockers(at)fish.net>

Subject: Re: Odometer question

Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 10:21:37 -0400

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"CardsFan" <me(at)here.com> wrote in message

news:cedgr8$b6f$1(at)mozo.cc.purdue.edu...

>

> "Fred" <antispam(at)aol.com> wrote in message

> news:SAjOc.1065$cL2.273598(at)news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net...

snip

> > it.... this would be another tip. Ask questions and do a lot of

> > inspecting... you may find clues. What about "Carfax"...? I don`t know

> > much about it but I heard of it.

>

> I used CarFax when I bought my Corvette through eBay. For $20 it`s well

> worth it. The car was in California for 7 years and there were records of

> every annual inspection, there was a record of when the car was re-titled

in

> Missouri, etc. If the car had ever been wrecked there would have been a

> record, etc.

>

> AJM

> `93 Ruby coupe, 6 sp

>

I need to take exception here on the statement "If the car had ever been

wrecked there would have been a record, etc". I hit a deer with my `98 and

all of the places that was supposed to put and estimate on it for the

insurance companies will go with the serial number to do so. No estimates, I

buy the parts from a dealer, fix the car myself, (new front end). Later I

get this bug in my butt for the Commemorative Edition and traded it. A

fellow club member saw it on the lot and buys it. When he drives it to the

next meeting he sees mine and said he had no idea he just got my old one. He

had no information from CarFax that showed any collision damage. CarFax is

not always correct and if the insurance doesn`t pay a claim or a shop

doesn`t fix it and put that information on the computer, CarFax is wrong or

not complete. Then there is the other side where a dealer will make a blind

repair to a customers car and load it to the computer so they will get the

manufactures warranty payment. When , in fact, nothing was done to the

vehicle at all. Lots of legal issues there that I can`t verify with facts,

(no longer have the paper trail), only what I`ve seen happen in the past.



To sum it up, there are ways around CarFax and ways that it don`t get the

correct information it needs to be accurate. Information is still key, and

if the responsible person doesn`t load it or has no idea where the parts are

going, CarFax is not going to have the right information. The statement

would be more correct if it had said "If the car had ever been wrecked

there`s a chance there is a record, etc."



Who and what runs CarFax, could it be the same people that set up the

computer system for the Flor-duh voters and wiped out all of the records on

the first official election last year?



--

Dad

04 C5 CE Z51

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From: "CardsFan" <me(at)here.com>

Subject: Re: Odometer question

Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 09:56:18 -0500

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"Dad" <knockers(at)fish.net> wrote in message

news:nLudnV3YWtfhxJfcRVn-tQ(at)bright.net...

>

> "CardsFan" <me(at)here.com> wrote in message

> news:cedgr8$b6f$1(at)mozo.cc.purdue.edu...

> >

> > "Fred" <antispam(at)aol.com> wrote in message

> > news:SAjOc.1065$cL2.273598(at)news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net...

> snip

> > > it.... this would be another tip. Ask questions and do a lot of

> > > inspecting... you may find clues. What about "Carfax"...? I don`t

know

> > > much about it but I heard of it.

> >

> > I used CarFax when I bought my Corvette through eBay. For $20 it`s well

> > worth it. The car was in California for 7 years and there were records

of

> > every annual inspection, there was a record of when the car was

re-titled

> in

> > Missouri, etc. If the car had ever been wrecked there would have been a

> > record, etc.

> >

> > AJM

> > `93 Ruby coupe, 6 sp

> >

> I need to take exception here on the statement "If the car had ever been

> wrecked there would have been a record, etc". I hit a deer with my `98 and

> all of the places that was supposed to put and estimate on it for the

> insurance companies will go with the serial number to do so. No estimates,

I

> buy the parts from a dealer, fix the car myself, (new front end). Later I

> get this bug in my butt for the Commemorative Edition and traded it. A

> fellow club member saw it on the lot and buys it. When he drives it to the

> next meeting he sees mine and said he had no idea he just got my old one.

He

> had no information from CarFax that showed any collision damage. CarFax is

> not always correct and if the insurance doesn`t pay a claim or a shop

> doesn`t fix it and put that information on the computer, CarFax is wrong

or

> not complete. Then there is the other side where a dealer will make a

blind

> repair to a customers car and load it to the computer so they will get the

> manufactures warranty payment. When , in fact, nothing was done to the

> vehicle at all. Lots of legal issues there that I can`t verify with facts,

> (no longer have the paper trail), only what I`ve seen happen in the past.

>

> To sum it up, there are ways around CarFax and ways that it don`t get the

> correct information it needs to be accurate. Information is still key, and

> if the responsible person doesn`t load it or has no idea where the parts

are

> going, CarFax is not going to have the right information. The statement

> would be more correct if it had said "If the car had ever been wrecked

> there`s a chance there is a record, etc."

>

> Who and what runs CarFax, could it be the same people that set up the

> computer system for the Flor-duh voters and wiped out all of the records

on

> the first official election last year?



Yes, the statement was too broad. CarFax gets information from lots of

places. If a car has flood damage and insurance pays there should be a

record. If the car has a "rebuilt" title, there will definitely be a record.

Yes, there will be no record if someone really whacks a car and rebuilds it

himself from parts bought from a dealer or salvage yard. But in large $

wrecks there is usually insurance involved and if so, CarFax should show a

notation of it. Did the police investigate your deer collision and file a

report? If so, there should have been a record CarFax could access.



I`m not shilling for CarFax, nor am I saying it`s perfect. I`m saying it`s

easily worth 20 bucks. It is also worth $100 or whatever the cost to have

an trusted mechanic check out a potential purchase for evidence of things

CarFax would never know about.



AJM

`93 Ruby coupe, 6 sp







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