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Re: Obama now owns GM
From: "Dad" <knockers(at)fisher.net>
Subject: Re: Obama now owns GM
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 11:14:10 -0400
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"pj" <pj4380(at)yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Wonder what Dad`s cut is on this? (How interdependent is Corvette
> on the rest of the GM line to meet it`s Build Sheets?)
>
> Maybe best for Corvette and for GM to sell the whole marque.
>
> We may find ourselves importing `gray market` `vettes made in India
> by a joint venture of Tata and Fiat. And, built to European or
> Middle-eastern standards.
>
> Possibly purchased thru the /Dick Cheney Corvette/ franchise in
> downtown Abu-Dhabi but drop-shipped into Ensenada for nighttime
> delivery in Ciudad Juarez under some NAFTA waiver.
>
> Shame this can`t be a big smiley :)
>
> --
> pj
I don`t think much of it at all, the profit pig is in a death spiral.
For far to many years GM has feed the money to fat cats, both in the
industry and their tax sucking friends in the government. It will
survive but in a very disfigured form. Those fat cats will make all in
the middle scrimp and look for other ways to make their way in life.
We will now see a shift of money direction which will help the company
not one bit but will help all those that are so needy.
Think Post Office for the talent shown by a government controlled
business. Where else can you get to retirement quicker, with better
benefits; with less effort; than if you were working for GM? Check out
what our Postmaster General makes with wages, bonus, healthcare, and
retirement, not quite a million but who`s counting? Where else can you
have the internet looking up your ass for years without noticing that
you need to change or die, ala Mr. Wagoner`s type of thinking? Where
else can a package carrying company start up and do your business for
you while you watch? Where else can you see people doing nothing and
be frustrated enough in their job to go postal? Yep, GM, the
government is here to help.
GM is at the best point to "bargain" with the union that they have
ever been but the government is going to take that advantage and piss
it away. Sure, they will make a big production about "look at what we
did", (somewhere around late 2011) when in fact it is already done.
Rick didn`t have the balls to dump on his friends, why should he? I`m
sure he won`t starve or have to walk to the store to see if today`s
allotment of milk came in. Oops, that`s in Russia, China, Cuba, and
the new USA where the government "runs" (?) everything. As government
projects go it will take a while but they will get it done with your
money.
My use of automobiles has been fun and coming to an end so I could
care less about GM, but I do care about my grandchildren and what
their life will be like. With any amount of government interference it
will not get better and certainly will be more costly in money and
freedoms.
I also wonder what a Corvette built with the Tata type of construction
would be like. No government mandates, no air bags, no bull dozer
blade bumpers, no side impact bars, no ABS, but I need to stop and
accept the computer controls of the drive train and the CNC machined
high tech components that have been refined to optimum performance.
Wait, I had all of that in my 2780 pound cast iron V8 powered `61,
sigh, less the modern aluminum drive train. A C7 may never exist
unless it is a reskin to ring the last bit of profit out of the
engineering that went into the chassis and drive train. Damn, there I
go again, isn`t profit a no no, the thing that the government
penalizes you for making? It will not survive on it`s own, think
Delorean, Bricklin, Stutz, and Cord, (the last 2 are from pj`s youth).
--
Dad
Life is a sexually transmitted condition that is always fatal.
From: pj <pj4380(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Obama now owns GM
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Dad wrote:
>
> "pj" <pj4380(at)yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:0gOAl.207208$6r1.72109(at)newsfe19.iad...
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> I also wonder what a Corvette built with the Tata type of construction
> would be like. No government mandates, no air bags, no bull dozer blade
> bumpers, no side impact bars, no ABS, but I need to stop and accept the
> computer controls of the drive train and the CNC machined high tech
> components that have been refined to optimum performance. Wait, I had
> all of that in my 2780 pound cast iron V8 powered `61, sigh, less the
> modern aluminum drive train. A C7 may never exist unless it is a reskin
> to ring the last bit of profit out of the engineering that went into the
> chassis and drive train. Damn, there I go again, isn`t profit a no no,
> the thing that the government penalizes you for making? It will not
> survive on it`s own, think Delorean, Bricklin, Stutz, and Cord, (the
> last 2 are from pj`s youth).
>
Change "youth" to "early childhood."
First (1938) top-down ride in a Cord introduced
pj to new word, "supercharger." Reward for
being `brave` was a double-scoop of
Tootie-Fruity ice cream in a waffle cone.
Never got to enjoy the delights of the Bearcat
did spend some time crawling around Reo trucks
though.
Old man Cord went on from cars to broadcasting,
founding KFAC. The initials stood for Fulton -
Auburn - Cord. No clue as to a marque named Fulton.
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pj
From: "Diode" <me(at)imnotgonnatellya.com>
Subject: OBD II Scanner for Palm
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Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 05:12:13 GMT
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Any of you guys ever play with one of these?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=43989&item=2454028476
It`s an Auterra Dyno Scan, which is an OBD II scanner that plugs into a
Palm. Gives you all kinds of info including output numbers (HP, Torque,
etc), pretty graphs, Mileage, timing info, bla, bla. Most importantly to
me, it reads trouble codes and lets you clear them. My Infinity keeps
setting the same stupid cat efficiency code and I keep needing to clear it.
I could take the car to the dealer and have them download the latest
software into the computer (the TSB says that will fix the problem) but I`ve
heard that the new download effects the drivability and neuters the car a
bit. What do you guys that know about OBD think about the Auterra?
--
-|>- Diode -<|-
`68 L79 Coupe
`79 Triumph Bonneville
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