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Re: Obama now owns GM

From: "Dad" <knockers(at)fisher.net>

Subject: Re: Obama now owns GM

Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 11:14:10 -0400

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"pj" <pj4380(at)yahoo.com> wrote in message

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> Wonder what Dad`s cut is on this? (How interdependent is Corvette

> on the rest of the GM line to meet it`s Build Sheets?)

>

> Maybe best for Corvette and for GM to sell the whole marque.

>

> We may find ourselves importing `gray market` `vettes made in India

> by a joint venture of Tata and Fiat. And, built to European or

> Middle-eastern standards.

>

> Possibly purchased thru the /Dick Cheney Corvette/ franchise in

> downtown Abu-Dhabi but drop-shipped into Ensenada for nighttime

> delivery in Ciudad Juarez under some NAFTA waiver.

>

> Shame this can`t be a big smiley :)

>

> --

> pj

I don`t think much of it at all, the profit pig is in a death spiral.

For far to many years GM has feed the money to fat cats, both in the

industry and their tax sucking friends in the government. It will

survive but in a very disfigured form. Those fat cats will make all in

the middle scrimp and look for other ways to make their way in life.

We will now see a shift of money direction which will help the company

not one bit but will help all those that are so needy.

Think Post Office for the talent shown by a government controlled

business. Where else can you get to retirement quicker, with better

benefits; with less effort; than if you were working for GM? Check out

what our Postmaster General makes with wages, bonus, healthcare, and

retirement, not quite a million but who`s counting? Where else can you

have the internet looking up your ass for years without noticing that

you need to change or die, ala Mr. Wagoner`s type of thinking? Where

else can a package carrying company start up and do your business for

you while you watch? Where else can you see people doing nothing and

be frustrated enough in their job to go postal? Yep, GM, the

government is here to help.

GM is at the best point to "bargain" with the union that they have

ever been but the government is going to take that advantage and piss

it away. Sure, they will make a big production about "look at what we

did", (somewhere around late 2011) when in fact it is already done.

Rick didn`t have the balls to dump on his friends, why should he? I`m

sure he won`t starve or have to walk to the store to see if today`s

allotment of milk came in. Oops, that`s in Russia, China, Cuba, and

the new USA where the government "runs" (?) everything. As government

projects go it will take a while but they will get it done with your

money.

My use of automobiles has been fun and coming to an end so I could

care less about GM, but I do care about my grandchildren and what

their life will be like. With any amount of government interference it

will not get better and certainly will be more costly in money and

freedoms.

I also wonder what a Corvette built with the Tata type of construction

would be like. No government mandates, no air bags, no bull dozer

blade bumpers, no side impact bars, no ABS, but I need to stop and

accept the computer controls of the drive train and the CNC machined

high tech components that have been refined to optimum performance.

Wait, I had all of that in my 2780 pound cast iron V8 powered `61,

sigh, less the modern aluminum drive train. A C7 may never exist

unless it is a reskin to ring the last bit of profit out of the

engineering that went into the chassis and drive train. Damn, there I

go again, isn`t profit a no no, the thing that the government

penalizes you for making? It will not survive on it`s own, think

Delorean, Bricklin, Stutz, and Cord, (the last 2 are from pj`s youth).

--

Dad

Life is a sexually transmitted condition that is always fatal.

From: pj <pj4380(at)yahoo.com>

Subject: Re: Obama now owns GM

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Dad wrote:

>

> "pj" <pj4380(at)yahoo.com> wrote in message

> news:0gOAl.207208$6r1.72109(at)newsfe19.iad...

>

> I also wonder what a Corvette built with the Tata type of construction

> would be like. No government mandates, no air bags, no bull dozer blade

> bumpers, no side impact bars, no ABS, but I need to stop and accept the

> computer controls of the drive train and the CNC machined high tech

> components that have been refined to optimum performance. Wait, I had

> all of that in my 2780 pound cast iron V8 powered `61, sigh, less the

> modern aluminum drive train. A C7 may never exist unless it is a reskin

> to ring the last bit of profit out of the engineering that went into the

> chassis and drive train. Damn, there I go again, isn`t profit a no no,

> the thing that the government penalizes you for making? It will not

> survive on it`s own, think Delorean, Bricklin, Stutz, and Cord, (the

> last 2 are from pj`s youth).

>

Change "youth" to "early childhood."

First (1938) top-down ride in a Cord introduced

pj to new word, "supercharger." Reward for

being `brave` was a double-scoop of

Tootie-Fruity ice cream in a waffle cone.

Never got to enjoy the delights of the Bearcat

did spend some time crawling around Reo trucks

though.

Old man Cord went on from cars to broadcasting,

founding KFAC. The initials stood for Fulton -

Auburn - Cord. No clue as to a marque named Fulton.

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pj

From: "Diode" <me(at)imnotgonnatellya.com>

Subject: OBD II Scanner for Palm

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Any of you guys ever play with one of these?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=43989&item=2454028476

It`s an Auterra Dyno Scan, which is an OBD II scanner that plugs into a

Palm. Gives you all kinds of info including output numbers (HP, Torque,

etc), pretty graphs, Mileage, timing info, bla, bla. Most importantly to

me, it reads trouble codes and lets you clear them. My Infinity keeps

setting the same stupid cat efficiency code and I keep needing to clear it.

I could take the car to the dealer and have them download the latest

software into the computer (the TSB says that will fix the problem) but I`ve

heard that the new download effects the drivability and neuters the car a

bit. What do you guys that know about OBD think about the Auterra?

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-|>- Diode -<|-

`68 L79 Coupe

`79 Triumph Bonneville

Last "Cars" Post on Wordpress:

Title: what a waste of time.
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 22:10:26 +0000
Author: gawa

So here I am, making a new blog since my previous one was kind of a bust. The day before I write my first CSC exam. It’s so hard to study in front of a computer, and I really should get back to studying. Mad procrastination.
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Anyways, hopefully I’ll be a little more successful at regularly updating this blog. To end the first post, here’s some pictures of post-Imporfest 2009. Congrats to Caleb for getting 3rd in the 06-09 Civic/CSX category. It’s well deserved.

More on: http://gawa86.wordpress.com/2009/09/25/what-a-waste-of-time/

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Title: Auto Dealerships in Maine, New Hampshire and Vermont expand operations
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 00:43:35 +0000
Author: cussgimble

Portland-South Portland, ME – Summit Automotive Partners,
parent company to Berlin City Auto Group, announced the acquisition of Burt Toyota Scion and
Burt Subaru, located in Denver, Colorado. The two auto dealerships have been renamed Groove Toyota Scion
and Groove Subaru. Summit Automotive Partners is owned and managed by George Gillett and Rod Buscher.

George Gillett had only kind words of appreciation for the Burt organization’s Colorado legacy,
which is family owned and has been a fixture on Broadway’s auto row for 70 years. “I want to salute the Chavez family
for their long history of community involvement, service and contribution to our state’s automotive industry,” He said.

More on: http://cussgimble.wordpress.com/2009/09/26/auto-dealerships-in-maine-new-hampshire-and-vermont-expand-operations/